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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/ Title A name given to the resource Gillian Edwards Oral History Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 2015 Description An account of the resource Gillian Edwards was born near Sheffield, England. As a young girl she remembered the end of the second world war, and traveling around the world as a high school student. She realized she fell in love, realized she was a lesbian after college, and emigrated to the US. Though she married a man thinking it would be a fix, she later divorced, came out and felt free. Gillian worked for IBM for many years, and engaged in sports and outdoor activities with other lesbians. She later met her wife Betsy McConnell, fell in love, and was interviewed by Betsy for this oral history. Subject The topic of the resource Oral History Is Part Of A related resource in which the described resource is physically or logically included. Colorado LGBTQ History Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource audio/mp3 England IBM Lesbian Lesbian Sports Marriage Traveller World War II https://lgbtqcolorado.cvlcollections.org/files/original/e0a608452587141445091e85eefdabb9.MP3 4ad087d1c1a6a18927f7d413aecf6010 https://lgbtqcolorado.cvlcollections.org/files/original/ca44a350bf9e2abfde840fed4b25ed3e.pdf aaa0edf851d7c9cf615b8ced3c24f842 PDF Text Text Audio file Gregg Looker (1).MP3 Transcript David Duffield All right. Today is October 15th, 2015. And as David Duffield, we're interviewing Greg Looker as part of the Colorado LGBT history project. Greg, thanks for going to this interview. It means a lot. Greg, why don't you go ahead? And tell us a little bit about yourself. Where were you born? Gregg Looker I was born in Elkhorn, WI, third son of four sons. My father was going to school on the GI Bill after World War 2. Either the bomber pilot. Down the highland. Yeah. B26 Melander. Wow. Gregg Looker Right. David Duffield What was it like growing up in Elkhorn? Gregg Looker I don't remember how caring I was, just a baby. David Duffield OK. Gregg Looker I lived in. Manitowoc, WI. When my dad worked at. I don't know where you worked. Mural aluminum, I think. And we moved to a small town in Wisconsin, 300 people in 1954, and I have vivid memories of Manitowoc when I was three and a. Half and four years old. David Duffield Oh, why do you remember? Gregg Looker I can remember. Playing in the curbing when the rain would go down and make paper boats and you watched the boats go in the. Curb and there was a. As a train track right behind the house with trains went through one today and and have different variances than yet so that I can remember my brother coming home from the hospital. When I was 2 1/2. David Duffield Would you say it was a happy childhood? �Gregg Looker Yeah. When I was in grade school. I think it was 6th or 7th grade that did the Iowa State achievement test and I I I got such a perfect score that the state Superintendent of schools came and visited my classroom to meet to interview me. And I've always been real good on tests and like 132 IQ and. Presidents being able to see what's going to happen next. It's the thing that goes. All the way through my life. David Duffield Seeing what's going to happen next. OK, cool. Gregg Looker Growing up in a three town of 300 people and A1 room schoolhouse with eight grades, and there were 23 students and eight grades. Nine of them were in one family and four of them. Were in my family. David Duffield That's a really small town. Gregg Looker Really small town. David Duffield Basically, two families living in the store, huh. Gregg Looker And then they taught. My brothers taught me to play baseball with rollers when I was in first grade, they told me how to bat. And so they. Had me batting right-handed, even though I'm left-handed so I was batted right-handed. David Duffield What was the family life like? Did you travel around a lot? You said going to? The national parks. Gregg Looker Every summer with my parents would take us to like the Expo 67, the New York World's Fair. We did Disneyland in 1957. My grandparents lived in Orlando, so we every other year we went to Orlando. Very nice World Vision of growing. Up to see what it was. Like, because in Maryville, Wisconsin, people didn't. Travel. Nobody did travel. David Duffield Do you think your parents did that intentionally to expose you to the world? OK, cool. So you said that that any memories come out of that, what are the? Gregg Looker Yes, definitely. �David Duffield Most significant measures. Gregg Looker The national parks break your leg park the Yellowstone parks, the Mount Rushmore and the. There's a Big Lake in California that's but dammed up. That was just amazing. Gregg Looker That good worldview? Yeah. Cool. David Duffield Good. Well with you? Yes. Gregg Looker And then the Navy added to that. So I lived all over the world in the Navy. David Duffield OK, cool. We'll talk about that in a. Few minutes. What? Speaker Were you? What was? David Duffield Going up in then I want to talk like maybe in. Middle School high school. Was K through 8? Gregg Looker I was the only boy in my grade for eight for seven years. There were 3-3 or four other girls. David Duffield So do you do for fun or in school? Gregg Looker What's interesting is that no matter what grade I was in, I was taking the spelling test all the. Way up to 8th grade. Even when I was in 3rd grade spelling test for like a challenge for me. Because I was. Bored. I was very disruptive of probably a. ADHD kind of kid. All the way through high school all the way. Through college and with all with kind of. David Duffield Disrupt over here. Gregg Looker �Because I was always kind of, I didn't like to be telling in study hall. I think. Why would you? Why would you sit in? An hour in study. Hall, I'm bored, right? David Duffield All right, cool and about. How old did you realize that you were gay? Gregg Looker I was 19. David Duffield When you came. Gregg Looker Out when I did my first sex act. David Duffield Did you ever feel different before then? Gregg Looker Yeah, I could remember. Spin and Marty. I can remember the the Gunsmoke I can remember. Spin and Marty were like Disney something and leave it to Beaver, my three sons. David Duffield So how old were you when you? First began to like. Feel an attraction to other men? Another boys. Gregg Looker Say 1918. David Duffield Did you know what being gay was like? Gregg Looker I didn't even know what ************ was until I was 17. Nobody told me. David Duffield Your mother has never told you. Really, members of your family that are gay? No, just you, OK? So what did? So you eventually. Graduate from high school. 1968 what? What did you choose to? Go to college. Gregg Looker I was senior class president and I had to leave in. The senior class play I was in. The band I was in, the marching band that was in the concert band. I was in the Pep band. I was I had went to state finals for forensics at the state won first and state I went to state and baritone horn duet. Very active. �David Duffield Very active in high school, huh? Gregg Looker And band and band and chorus together for a while. David Duffield What did you sing? Tenor any memorable. Gregg Looker Just normal concerts. David Duffield Normal concerts all over the state or just sort of? Gregg Looker We had 7 high schools in a in a league that we would circle it in. So when we did competition we'd be doing it in that league and then when we go to state, you'd go to the. State Madison. OK, cool. David Duffield So you finally chose to go to College in. In Oshkosh? Yes. Was that your first choice? Gregg Looker Yeah, it was close. It was supposed to be a party school. I like that. So it was Madison, but. David Duffield Party school. Gregg Looker Medicine had higher, higher standards. David Duffield Higher standards? Gregg Looker Just to be accepted in Madison was more difficult than being accepted at what was then at Teachers College, and it became a part of the UW system. The year after I started. David Duffield Teachers college. OK, cool. And what was color like for you? Gregg Looker �Oh, it was a blast. I enjoyed it. I. Was sorry it was over. Yeah, four years. Other people spend 6 and seven years going. To college my. Parents said they're only going to finance. Four years so. I did it in four years. David Duffield And what are you studying? Gregg Looker Sociology. It was business at first, but then I had to do more math and I was never going to. David Duffield Was that your first choice? Gregg Looker Make it through math so. And went to sociology. David Duffield What did you like about sociology? Gregg Looker I didn't like it and that was just the easiest degree. It's a means to an end the degree, right? David Duffield Is the easiest. To the end, what was the end? Of the. Were there any memorable events in? In during your college. Years, I think you said you. Were arrested once for. Gregg Looker Faster than Washington, DC for the the protesting the Vietnam War. We were, I was in Oshkosh when the army map we said center building was blown out and somebody was killed and the Madison. David Duffield Wow, really? Wow, how does that make you feel? Gregg Looker Well, it's kind of. We were an empathy about the Vietnam issue. So, but building up the building wasn't anything that we supported. It was. David Duffield Why did you choose to go to Washington in 1971 as a junior? And protest the Vietnam War. Gregg Looker �And I felt compelled, though I felt that that we needed to be there and and the war we the premises we were going to surround the Capitol and put the Congress under citizens arrest by holding hands and going around the entire capital. And there were. 200,000 people there. There's a lot. David Duffield Of people there, how did you feel about the Vietnam War? I mean, you graduated in 1968 when the country sort of exploded. Gregg Looker Right. If it was that peak of Vietnam. War for that period. And later on in the Navy, I was served in the South China Sea, right off the coast of Vietnam. David Duffield But what did you how did? You feel about the. Gregg Looker Yeah, kind of a kind of person. David Duffield That was worth. Gregg Looker Protesting, arguing, not accepting the status quo, OK. David Duffield Arguing in what way? Why would you argue? Gregg Looker Because of this kind. Of that rebellious period of life. I had my first LSD experience in the summer of 69, and because that's when I was 19, it was the same weekend that Ted Kennedy threw, drowned his girlfriend, and in that thing, and it was the same weekend as Woodstock. And so I go. I can't smoke pot because I don't smoke cigarettes. So he said, well, you can just take this little pill. So I got micro dot on a chip piece of paper and they'll do the same thing as pot does. Ohh. Really. And we were. We are headed to a lake that afternoon or Friday, and as the car would go down the road every time he touched the brakes, I would be in the back 9th St. the 3rd St. The car would pick up and bounce down the. Road on the front bumper. Well, at least the way I saw it. And later on, when I'm laying on the beach, I would I could turn the music off in my brain because they made playing music off the band the jukebox, and I was able to turn the music off and total silence. And then when birds flew around, they were like tracers of birds and like this, like flu and motions of color. Just. The way you move your hand and you can see a slow motion of your hand, they don't make that figure anymore, so that became a period of experimentation. David Duffield �Memory tones. What? What? Gregg Looker LSD. Something else like Pyote, like mescaline pot. Speed once in a while when. You're trying to get. Finished. You're studying for tests and that wide area. Speaker The 7th. David Duffield Is there any sexual exploitation or sexual experimentation? You said you came out in 19. Gregg Looker I'm 19, right? Not much. I I didn't go to a gay bar until I went to. I graduated college. David Duffield College and were there any student groups? What did you do for? Did you? Have a boyfriend in in. Gregg Looker No, there wasn't. There was, I was in a fraternity fraternity. Right. David Duffield What was that experience like? Gregg Looker Good people. David Duffield What fraternity were you in? Gregg Looker Sigma Phi epsilon. There is a chapter in Boulder. David Duffield So you eventually graduated from college. In 1972 and you spent. Three days in jail for. Gregg Looker We never got processed, so we never had. A criminal record. David Duffield You never had a criminal record, so if there were too many people arrested, can you describe what the whole experience was? Life. �Gregg Looker Right, right. Gregg Looker It was a Monday morning when it was when it started and we uh. Tear gas was all over the place. They kind of rounded us up in buses and took us to the RFK stadium. At first Bella Abzug with I was within 5 feet of Bella Abzug. She's a congresswoman from New York. Abby Hoffman was Abby Hoffman. David Duffield Messing with you. Gregg Looker In there also. She was visiting to the congresswoman. OK, cool. And they eventually they held us for three days, and they figured they weren't going to get us through process. Things. So we let us go. David Duffield So you just. Went home. Gregg Looker Just went home. My cars generator died on the way back my 66 Buick. And as the night as the day got darker, the lights got dimmer. We're gonna get back to us because we had no headlights. It was in the dark. David Duffield Oh, oh, God. That's a long drive too. Gregg Looker And if we turn the car off, it wouldn't turn back on again. So we stayed. We ran the car all the way from Washington, DC to Oshkosh. Never turned it off. David Duffield Wow, that's crazy. Gregg Looker I mean, seven people in the car. David Duffield How did you feel coming out? Gregg Looker Of that solidarity, I feel I felt that. We made our point and. It ended it was about 73. It was over. Then that was in 71. So when we made, you know, Nixon came and visited the protesters. �David Duffield And when you? Say in 1973 was over. Gregg Looker The Vietnam War was over. David Duffield By 75 it was completely done, you know. How did you feel about the election of Nixon? Gregg Looker I voted for him. I voted for the Republican until 1988. The the Republicans today aren't the same as Republicans, but we're then. David Duffield You did? Why did you vote Republican? Gregg Looker And I would. You hear it. Gregg Looker All the the same thing as that Republic Democrats are ready to give away all the money to poor people and subsidizing people don't want to just be lazy to work and all that crap. And besides, my parents were bankers. And I grew up with that Republican household stuff, but still my mother to this day, when I point to something on my mom works. You know, the deficits almost non existent after all these, after seven years of. David Duffield Households that. Gregg Looker Obama, I don't. Believe anything he says. OK, mom. What? You don't admit on TV that you're saying that the deficit almost nonexistent because the seven years of Obama's been able to bring the debt down? Doesn't believe it. David Duffield No, not at all, huh? No. So when you left college? Gregg Looker I worked for Singer sewing machines for six months in the summer of 72. And then I got laid off and around Christmas so that I wasn't cut out to be a singer sewing machine salesman. And I joined the Navy in March. I signed the papers in February, but I went in on March 9th. David Duffield �Tell us about your process. How did you choose to join the Navy? Gregg Looker I said the only way I'm going to get out of this freaking hell hole and 300 people of Wisconsin is to join the Navy and see the world. David Duffield To get out of town the other day. Get out of dodge. And so you signed the papers in reality station first. Gregg Looker I went to. Boot camp in San Diego and a school in San Diego. Speaker Learn how to be. Gregg Looker A personnel specialist where they teach you? How to type and? I already knew how to type 110 words a minute and so they would put these headphones on and you type. And I would type the whole exercise and they yell at me because you're not supposed to. Do that. You have to go at the pace they're. Telling you I was going OK. It's the military teach you to type when you. David Duffield Yeah, that's right. Gregg Looker Know how to type. I could have test it out. David Duffield And how were you when you went? To your first gay bar. Gregg Looker That summer of 72 of my. First gay bar. David Duffield Why did you choose to go to where? Was it at? Gregg Looker In Milwaukee. David Duffield And then walking sort of before you where you on. Your way with the. Gregg Looker �Yeah, I lived in Milwaukee from my hometown for about 6-7 months period. Graduated in May and moved into June. I think I friend that lived in watches. I stayed with his parents for like 2 weeks. David Duffield What was the name of the bar? Gregg Looker The Q bar. David Duffield The Q bar. Gregg Looker I think it's not there anymore. David Duffield Did you? What was it like? Gregg Looker It was dark. Gloria Gaynor was big Gloria gayner. David Duffield It was dark. Gregg Looker That's being me. Gregg Looker Yeah, yeah. David Duffield The singer. Did you ever meet anyone? Gregg Looker Ohh every night. David Duffield Nothing. Nothing. So you were thinking? About that. Gregg Looker Catching up. I'm. David Duffield �So very active. Did you ever find a boyfriend or anything like that? Gregg Looker Yes, yes. Gregg Looker Now for some reason. It didn't happen. It never happened to Jerry. There wasn't anybody in the Navy as a transient, if you did meet somebody. You're. I was leaving to go somewhere else. Eventually. So. David Duffield Went to boot camp in San Diego. Was there an active gay? Military in San Diego. Would like to be gay. And in the military. Gregg Looker I didn't have. To go to bars, right? Because they're not gay. People in the Navy without having to go to bars. Gregg Looker You got to drop bars. No. Why? David Duffield OK. Were you ever afraid of being found? Gregg Looker Out constantly that NS file is all about finding out. David Duffield Dennis stands for what? Gregg Looker NCIS Naval Investigative Services. David Duffield This is the discharge stuff later in 77. Gregg Looker It got started in 70. David Duffield But there's about. Four years where you travel around. Gregg Looker Four year, seven months, 14 days, right, right. �David Duffield Before all that starts, what were those four years like? What are some of the major? Points in the. Gregg Looker Line, I gotta say 80% of it was absolutely boredom and the other 20% of it was just amazing sailing on a destroyer through five typhoons alone. Build character I mean. If anything, the military gave me its character building and being it being disciplined I was. Not disciplined at all. Never claimed to be, but I got it. I got through the Navy. What's interesting is the first day of boot camp in San Diego, they the line to stop and they go. Who's got any college here? I raised my hand. I go. I he says how much I got. I have a degree. OK, then they. Go. Who's got any military experience? I go. I was in ROTC for a year. Well, Needless to say, that dress sides and and the six weeks that I spent with the most miserable of my life I had he had people taking me out. In the middle of the night and beating. Me up my own my. Own ship pants and boot. Camp were beating me up. So you can't do this. Yeah, I think it was just obvious I. Was gay and they knew it. David Duffield It was obvious that you were gay. Gregg Looker I mean, there's just some mannerisms and. Tone of how you talk. That you can't, but you know that genie ain't going back in that bottle, no matter how you train. You try to be. Gregg Looker Right. Gregg Looker Now, but I think they pegged me real quick and I still graduated from boot camp. David Duffield And so they basically. Watch out. And so you mentioned some interesting experiences in the Navy. Do you want to talk about them? Gregg Looker Trying to think of how I would approach the subject like. A seafood diet for five years. David Duffield Yeah, seafood diet for five years go. Ahead and tell us more about. Gregg Looker Well, you didn't have to. If if I. Was in a gay bar. I didn't have to. You could tell. Who are who are the other military people were because we were deaf different. You know that there. Are people long? Hair and beards and everything like that you could. Tell who was in the military. �Speaker So when you. Gregg Looker Meet people you have a comment that you both in the military. David Duffield OK. Did you pick up more military people constantly? And you said those first four years you were stationed in what countries? Gregg Looker Even in a gay bar. Gregg Looker I'm constant. Gregg Looker Well, it was. David Duffield It was San Diego. Gregg Looker Two months in San Diego for. The boot camp and. A school then it was in Guam for a year. And that ship? Didn't go anywhere. It was stuck on a rock. Speaker It was a. Gregg Looker Submarine tender. So the blue crew or the gold crew would pull up and would retrofit their food and do. Supply parties and load them up, and then they'd be on their way. And that was beautiful. Gone was a beautiful island, and you can go. You can see where tanks and aircraft debris were in gullies and up in the mountains. We've got glam. You could see where World War Two took place. Yeah, it was. Tinian was near there. David Duffield Was your father a bomber in Europe? Or or the Pacific. He was in Europe, in Europe, he was a. Gregg Looker 2nd Lieutenant for the 2nd 2nd Lieutenant. Gregg Looker �He was a second Lieutenant. David Duffield OK. And what was what was life like for you in Guam? Did you go around and see the sights? From World War 2. Gregg Looker We did a. Lot of sightseeing, a lot of beach. We hang out. You could buy a whole bottle of vodka for $1.80. I remember 7 counts for like $1.50. Gregg Looker It was amazing. David Duffield From the excel. Gregg Looker From the basics change and just go have a good time. I got pictures of glum, amazing pictures. David Duffield Where did you go from Guam? Gregg Looker Went swapped itself, negotiated a transfer to a destroyer, and five days after I got to this San Diego to get on the destroyer, it was leaving for a six month rotation on the Western Pacific. That's where I did the five. 5 typhoons. David Duffield Five type. Oh, my God. Where did you go? 1st we looked at Hawaii. Gregg Looker Hawaii, Cusca, Japan. And then we went to Taiwan and Hong Kong, and then we wound up in the Philippines, where we did a lot of work on the boat. It was the dry dock in the Philippines and you? Could live in a dry dock on a boat. On the boat and then about October, I think it was September, October, I got the telegram saying that I'd been accepted for after candidate school, and my CEO said he'd never had anybody get accepted OCS ever in his career. David Duffield That was nice. Gregg Looker Six, that was 77 days. David Duffield �24 OK, 1974. So you went, did you go straight to Officer candidate squad for that? Gregg Looker I went to Newport, RI for Officer Candidate School for five months and that was a breeze. I was I was with nobody else, had any military background. I was the the only one other person that was enlisted at Officer Candidate School. So I had, I knew all about military stuff, saying issue and all that. And after I got out of. My Commission, I was the Anchorman because at 50% of your score of your overall weighted score in the Navy is your military bearing by other people who have observed you. I was enlisted, you know, I didn't have to take all this seriously. So. So I was the what they called Anchorman. I was number like 133 out of 133 and I still got my Commission on how I did that. Yeah. David Duffield You need to go after office office. Gregg Looker I went to Keflavik, Iceland. And then there was in the summer, the sun. David Duffield What was Iceland like? Gregg Looker Sets at 11 and comes up at 1:00 in the morning and in this in the winter the sun comes up at 11:00 in the morning and sets at 1:11 in the morning and sets at 1:00 in the afternoon. Only two hours of sun and boy, that gets depressing. David Duffield I bet. Gregg Looker And then that's where the problem started. I was hanging out with enlisted people. I got a reputation for that. David Duffield Tell us more about that. Gregg Looker Well, I was just, I mean I. I I I I was enlisted so I I. Felt more comfortable with the list of people than officers. And the only. There's the base, the boosters club, which is really boring. They're all married or you know. Whatever. And they were. And then missing Club was a lot more fun, so I would hang out with this club. Well, that's the. First, NIS story happened there. People who have whose career was in. Jeopardy. And they ratted me out. So that's began a. Whole process of people testifying, right. David Duffield �Against you, what was your rank in? Gregg Looker I in Iceland I was an instant and and later on I survived that. Believe it or not, and I was being they were going to. They were going to kick me out a year earlier and I insisted on having a psychiatric evaluation which would read all the rules. I'm entitled to that. So they sent me from Iceland to Philadelphia during the summer of the Bicentennial. And I got a psychiatric evaluation that certified that I have no no signs of being a homosexual. I've got a Navy doctor certifying that there's no evidence of me being gay. David Duffield What? How does? That work, obviously you were Gary. Gregg Looker They gave me, you know, like stupid tests. And I'm sexually, dude. I feel so challenged. Agree I understand what they're asking. Wish my father would leave an open-ended statement or something, you know, clean his garage. And I would just really nine sick with her responses. David Duffield And so. Gregg Looker So another interesting thing about Iceland. Of eight junior officers, seven of us were left. Handed that is crazy, which means. David Duffield Wow, that's crazy. Gregg Looker First of all, people that are really smart go to OCS and so at the end they also already have a degree, so there's they're. It was interesting because only one in 10 is supposed to be yes. David Duffield It's unusual. So you survived the first NIS investigation by by. How did you do it? Gregg Looker Right. Gregg Looker I just. I was going to put up with it and I was in a psychiatric ward. David Duffield Really, they put you in the psychiatric. Gregg Looker �Yes, right. For about two weeks, 3 weeks and they, uh, then they they put me on temporary duty with the Public Affairs Office of Philadelphia. The same time that the International Naval Review was happening on the 4th of July. David Duffield While you're being evaluated for homosexuality. Gregg Looker Of 76 and so the Queen Elizabeth came in that fall on her on her yacht. And so I was on the boat, welcoming on the Coast Guard boat on the Navy boat, welcoming the Queen of England yacht coming into the Philadelphia Harbor. Yeah. David Duffield Oh, wow so awesome. That's phenomenal. Gregg Looker That was cool. David Duffield So you survived the first thing, and then what happened? Gregg Looker And then they sent me to Norfolk, VA, to be like a the the training Court training Center for the Associates type of training or anti submarine warfare. The brand new building. The summer of. 76 when I got there, I bought a house, a townhouse in Virginia Beach. I laid low. I had a I lived into my church for a while. I was trying to behave myself. I was, I would belong to a Presbyterian Church and. David Duffield The church. Gregg Looker Basically trying to better myself, which didn't last very long. David Duffield Didn't go gay bars or anything. For a while. Gregg Looker Right. And then when I did start going then? The NIS was on to me before I. Even knew about it because they were in the gay bars in. David Duffield Norfolk talking to me surveillance. Gregg Looker �I was under surveillance and they have logs where at what time I parked my car in the parking lot. What time I left, what I was wearing when I went in, what time I left. And they actually talked to me in the bar. David Duffield Ohh really? So did they start a second investigation? Gregg Looker Yeah, that's my house. Daddy wouldn't. Don't really don't know. And I shouldn't say this. My roommates old hot his. His father was an Admiral of of the Commander of the Naval Base in Norfolk. And he also grew up with Jim Morrison, whose father was an Admiral in the Navy and grew up in Norfolk, and they lived next. Door to each. Other Tim Morrison of the doors. David Duffield Oh wow, that's crazy. It's very insane. Gregg Looker Yeah. And so he was selling pot. So when they set, they're not. They sent a kid to work for me in this library of the documents. And somehow or other pot came up and I said well my. Roommate sells hot. I can. Sell hot, so I didn't do anything with him sexually. But he came over to my house and he bought a $15.00 worth of pot. And then the the door burst. Open and I was handcuffed like. Big butts, $15 for the. David Duffield How did that make you feel? Gregg Looker That would that would but as. Gregg Looker Long as it could go, yeah. David Duffield What happened after that? Gregg Looker If that happened in about August, the same week that Elvis Presley died. David Duffield 76. Yes, no 77. Gregg Looker And I was. Out by September late September. David Duffield �Did they give you an honorable or dishonorable? They give you a dishonor. Gregg Looker There was talk. Of Kurt marshalling me and going to Leavenworth. Really. David Duffield What's hot? Why? Gregg Looker Well, they had all the other NIS stories about the sex part of it already, so this was just. The part was. Just the drug charge on top of. It all right. David Duffield Was the kicker. So what happened to you after that? How did? Gregg Looker You feel pretty. Gregg Looker I felt I was never going to ever hold a decent job again the rest. Of my life, I. Really. And I was in debt, so. I bought a. Book on chapter Chapter 7 bankruptcy. I charged it. Gregg Looker And they said your. Gregg Looker First advice is to separate yourself from your creditors, so move as far. Away as you can. And that's how I moved to Denver. David Duffield To separate yourself from your creditors. So where did you move first? Gregg Looker Right. I moved. I put everything in storage and. I had that little. Dots in the station wagon, which was later 30 months. 30 days later with repo. And then then a 151555 Washington in a in a. Studio that the bed came out of the wall. Little kitchen like I'm putting gram here. Yeah. David Duffield Did you immediately become involved in the gay and lesbian? Gregg Looker Yeah, that the first check I wrote was to get gay, the gay Community Center, to fill that. �David Duffield How much was it for? Gregg Looker $15 I might have been 5 even. It might have been fine because I was a recently discharged veteran. David Duffield And where were you working? Gregg Looker I would work. I ought to work for the city. I started with the city about. David Duffield Working for the city. Gregg Looker November, within weeks after I got to Denver, within two or three weeks, I started with the city. Yeah. And I said I'm the application says you have an honorable discharge. I go. Yeah, I. Do I have two discharges? Pick one. And stayed with the setting for the whole 29 years. David Duffield The city for the full 29 years, OK. Did you? When did you start working for the city there? Gregg Looker Denver Appointment Training Administration, this agency who administers the see the money wins with Strange Quirk as the money was running out, the government forced the city to put workforce seated workforce people. Into the city workforce. For one, I work from the. Just November, December, January 23rd, I went to transition to full-time city job with the same agency, but now I had city benefits and city rights. David Duffield OK. Gregg Looker Which you can't. Beat City retirement benefits and city health benefits. David Duffield OK, cool. And So what was gay life like for you, socially speaking? Gregg Looker I was very exciting. I I I went. It was and I was new in Denver, so it was foxhole every Sunday afternoon playing volleyball. I was involved in the motorcycle club and the. Trial court from day one. It was an. Exciting period 787 to be in Denver. �David Duffield What were you doing in terms of the community? In that period of time. Gregg Looker I was secretary of the Court for Lane 6, which was in 1979. And it's on range 42 now. So I was. I listed volunteer stuff in the administrative area. David Duffield Were there any battles in the community at that time? Gregg Looker Ohh after Donald. You know, we had Bill Mcnichols who denied funding of the gay Community Center in 1979, and I ran a. He was running for reelection in 79. I ran a dump, Mcnichols campaign, and I made Buttons City employee working for Mayor Mcnichols, who did a a thing called Dunk Mcnichols. I just came to me and I had a button machine. David Duffield How did you form that? Gregg Looker From the court campaign for Emperor, so I just. I did a different campaign and I was in Westward magazine with my picture in it. And I survived my city career. David Duffield And he survived the city for well. He wasn't gone long after that. It was only three or four more years he survived that election in 182. Gregg Looker Right. And then an 82? When I and I was already a city employee legally and then I got in the position that state that the public works. But it was really Stapleton Airport. My career really went sky High. I was just 12 months after I started as a city typist. Typist 2, which is the lowest entry level position in the city. I promoted twice and I was already up to mid mid management within 12 months. David Duffield What other campaigns were you involved in besides the dumping Nichols campaign? Gregg Looker I was always a. I was a Republican then. David Duffield You were Republican. Gregg Looker �Yeah, I went to a Republican caucus I had. The the caucus. Rules from the Oregon party. I went down there and got the the rule book on how to. Do a caucus. And I got to the Republican caucus at 1660 Goldman and they told me that they was running. It says, like, we already have our delegates, you know. I can make you. The charge and I go no. That's not the way it works. You would like the. Delegates. No, we don't do that. We just have. No, you do. Here's the. Here's the book. And the other people in the caucus. I'm going. He's right. You elect the delegates. So I got elected the delegate. And the woman did put my name down when she turned in those stuff. She didn't put my name down. I filed A complaint with the Republican Party and I go this is ********. And this woman adds the deck stack before the meeting started. So I went to the caucus. They seated me. They said, yeah, you have to get the credentials. When I walked in, the other person was wearing. My credentials. That's how the machine worked. You couldn't find it. And so. Even though she had. To give the credentials to me, that did make you very popular at a caucus, so that was my extent of Republican involvement in 88. I switched altogether to Democrat. David Duffield For just a caucus hub. So you started working with the city and you? Got promoted to what? Gregg Looker Administrative assistant to before there were any technology positions other than like programmer, compiler or whatever I was coming up the other path. The PCs connectivity networks e-mail later on Internet. David Duffield On the cusp of that. Gregg Looker I was all the head of that Cuss city was buying IBM PC. We were buying clones. Stapleton City was buying token ring networks in seven in. David Duffield Ohh wow. Gregg Looker 198384 No 85. Sid was buying token rings. I was going. We're going for now at Stapleton. Wow. And I was ahead of that decision making in the Ethernet one. Everybody knows that. So I was always ahead. I was always. Ahead on giving management computers, which before our secretaries had computers to do letters and so this whole automation curve beginning in 83 and ending in about 87 when we. Switch to Novell networks and local area networks based on Ethernet. Token rent I mean not token ring. David Duffield The song before other. Gregg Looker �An 87 I pioneered the RJ45 connectivity using the telephone wires to do Ethernet connections with twisted pair. So the head of that curve. Also, in other words, you can have networks. But if you can't connect. Them they're useless and so. Gregg Looker We have a new. Gregg Looker Construction office going on in 87 for the Denver airport. The new Denver Airport and that wing of Stapleton's terminal was built for the new airport office and so we had the that kind of wiring put in based on. What what I told. Them to do. And the whole DIA had that wiring because. It was right. David Duffield Cool. So you anticipated that? And you met your. Partner Jerry in 1979. Gregg Looker Right. David Duffield How did you guys meet? Gregg Looker At a birthday party for Betty Fairchild, who is the president of parents and Friends of lesbians and gays. He he was a soul mate in the sense that he had the same color, size, bathrobe, roller skates. Crockpot Mix master albums. He literally was like. My soul mate, I mean, he was. He was, he was. He was identical to me. But he was a Pisces and cancer. And that pair works very well together. Right? And we were together 10 years and he was a big ****. David Duffield See you. Thank you. Very cancel. Answer pisces, huh? Gregg Looker Both of us were actually, but I was more of a top. Than he was. And so that's where I made it. I'm thinking that I never. I never did the other way. David Duffield Did you ever have an open relationship with him with this? OK. Gregg Looker Ohh yeah, I mean that back then it was like standard. David Duffield So he eventually died from complications of HIV in. 1988. �Gregg Looker Right, yeah. March 10th of 19/9 February 10th of 1990. David Duffield Where were you living at? Gregg Looker The time we had a Denver square at 1589 Adams St. for 20 that I had it at that point. It was 10 years that we owned it together. And he quit, claimed that deed to me. Before he died. And he died in the living room right during Star Trek. David Duffield Watch Star Trek when he was passing was the next generation. Gregg Looker No, it was still. Original stuff. David Duffield Original Star Trek. Was it a difficult period of time? For you, obviously. Gregg Looker It was very bad. And there's never been anybody since that was even come close. I had a boyfriend, another emperor that got kicked out of Emperor. The only one, Larry Basford. And he ran off with a bigger, fatter, older, bolder person than me. David Duffield But suffice it to say so. How did you cope with leaving partner to HIV? Gregg Looker It was it was difficult and I was. I was elected emperor the next. It was I. Was elected emperor the next 14 months later and. David Duffield So how did? Gregg Looker You cope well. I spent 21 days in rehab. January 1 of of 1990. I thought the curve there would. Ban alcohol and drugs and everything. And I was going. To get fired. Anyway, so I figured I'd check out for 21 days. Best thing I ever did career wise. David Duffield You are going to get fired. �Gregg Looker It was not going well at. David Duffield That that work was this because of all the stuff going on with with Kerry? Gregg Looker No, there was weird stuff going on. Strange stuff that's not even normal. Somebody was stealing a coworker in my IT shop was stealing our mail and we told him and I would. And it was getting so bad that I went and photocopied all the mail that I was getting before it went into the mailboxes. Because I. Knew everybody at Stapleton. So I knew how to do this. And sure enough, the man mainly came up short. We told the IT director that he still stealing our mail and he opened his briefcase and our mail was there. And his briefcase. And so I was vindicated. David Duffield Oh my God. Wow, that's great. Gregg Looker That summer and the IT guy. Later worked for me and he left the city and had I need he needed work and I needed. I had some work, I could have him do him. Speaker Ohh wow. Gregg Looker Later my IT. Career. So he actually worked for me for. And I found. 9495 instead of taking some. Pills that are like. Mentally good for you. Gregg Looker I forget the name of it. Gregg Looker Over the counter stuff I was starting to take that every day and it would, it would kind. Of bring me down, it would. Relax me to the point where I was taking it every day and stay in my career. And I at that point. 949495 is when I actually started. My career? Really. Started going good and it stayed going good until like 2002 thousand and three 2000. Five. So I had nine good years because I was in charge of my area. I was a network manager for all of the networks of the airport. David Duffield That was a good. Gregg Looker �That was DIA. Now not stable. And I just loved what I was doing. And and I was a real good manager. I got everybody knew I would. I had their back really different, new age type of manager, management by walking around for instance, MY2K came along and I was in charge of the budget. And I came within .1% of. Having a budget balance, which is amazing. I have a in order to get an outstanding performance report you have to have the deputies of the airport unanimously vote and I got an outstanding performance report. So I was a lot better in the later part of my career than I was in the early part of my career. David Duffield OK, cool. Yeah. What was your community engagement like? You served in the court and you were ever 18 in 1990? Gregg Looker I was when I added it all up, I founded the Mile High Freedom Band with Bob Brown. I founded Colorado Citizens Caucus. I found that the Denver Athletic Union, which was a consortium of sports sporting people who basically skiing. David Duffield You cofounded. Gregg Looker Yeah. And all of these. Rocky Mountaineer, that was president. Letter court that finally got to be emperor after six. Gregg Looker I'm very active, very active. David Duffield Were there a lot of battles? In the community. Gregg Looker All the time. Lesbians that like me. David Duffield Why was that? Why didn't they like you? Gregg Looker Well, when I was on the Board of Directors with the Get Community Center, I wasn't exactly the most diplomatic person. David Duffield Oh really? Gregg Looker �And I didn't put up the lesbian ********. Like with the. 59 to the first pride permit. They didn't want to have a parade. They wanted to have a March. And so they didn't want any drag Queens and they didn't want any floats or Christy Lane wanted drag Queens and floats. And so there was a battle in 76 and 77 over the parade permit. 50 Lane had the parade permit. David Duffield Right. Right. Gregg Looker So I got all that I got over that part, but it wasn't anything important. I wasn't a very non political in the social community. Lately I'm more of a Democrat work. David Duffield And you switched over to. Gregg Looker 88. David Duffield 88 to Democrat, why was that? Gregg Looker Right. Gary was dying and he had AIDS, and Reagan never mentioned aids once in his whole Presidency and George Bush was running against. What's his name? East Coast guy. In 88 and that's for the president. David Duffield Yeah, you caucus. Gregg Looker Yeah, yeah. David Duffield So you switched over because Reagan had never mentioned or done anything. Gregg Looker Right. And Jerry was needed help. David Duffield So did you feel betrayed by the Republican Party? Gregg Looker �Yeah, I did. That's why I'm so passionately Democrat now. I'm the precinct captain. I'm the black captain here. In my black. And the secretary of the Executive Board of the Master Community Association. I'm in the northeast Denver Co-op. We're having a food Co-op. Yeah. I'm actually doing their books. Transitioning them from a spreadsheet to QuickBooks Online. David Duffield When and how did you find out Jerry was? HIV positive? Gregg Looker About 84, I think it was where they first had a test and we both went to take the test and then we. Had to come back for. Gregg Looker To receive the. Gregg Looker Results and when we were leaving his sheet of paper with a different color than. David Duffield Mine. Where where were. Gregg Looker Live at Monroe Medical Center. And I go your shoe is different color and he says it says I've got it going. That was like a heavy blow to the head. And just because of the color, the paper was different. So I worked on. The the AIDS interviewed before Colorado AIDS project really was a project. We did a survey thing. What is the assessing the Community needs? There's so many people sick we need to do something about this. And that's why I was involved in that originally. There wasn't any any project Angel heart. There wasn't any a place for him to live. We we dealt with. That at the House his mother and I would. Take turns staying with him. David Duffield Did he get sick right away? He. Gregg Looker He spent the spring of 89 in intensive care ICU for 10 days. And with pneumocystis, whatever pneumonia we didn't think he'd make, it was on a ventilator for 10 days and he'd. Ruined his vocal. Cords and so he could never speak. The same way ever. Gregg Looker And then. David Duffield And then it didn't and. Then eventually passed. �Gregg Looker But it that was he got out in. May and he didn't die until the following February. So it. Was it was pretty grim. David Duffield Ten months, but there were happy years between 1984. So what did you guys do for fun? Gregg Looker Ohh yeah. Gregg Looker We get motorcycle runs we went to. Arizona we went to. Los Angeles, San Francisco. Together, I basically traveled more than he traveled, but we did do a lot together camping every year for GFR and mountains. And yeah, I'm very happy. Period. David Duffield What were your happiest times? Gregg Looker When I was remodeling that house. It was constant. I was doing the kitchen the second time when I decided to build this house. It's compulsively doing housing, and I renovated the duplex back into a single family also, and it turned out very well. David Duffield The second. Where was that at? Gregg Looker 1589 atoms. David Duffield Is it still there? Gregg Looker Fumbles with as much of this House still. David Duffield Were there a lot? Of gay people doing that, then renovating houses. Gregg Looker Oh yeah, yeah. David Duffield �Were you ever part of any co-ops or boards at that time? Gregg Looker Not really, no. That neighborhood. It's called S South City Park and the community that we're in. And it went really upscale after I moved out in 2003. That's with the Bluebird theater, is all these new restaurants and and and. There wasn't anything there. David Duffield Where did you sell? Gregg Looker When they first opened, the trailer set up the trailer is here at Stapleton to have the five different trailers for the five different builders and I. Said, well, I'm going. To check out the new new stuff at Stapleton. And I I fell in love with it. I have a new house with everything working bigger and the same price. At that time. And so. By the time I sold the Denver Square, it was 100,000 less than I was asking, and so I still was able to walk away with 20% down. Yeah, so. David Duffield Really good. Gregg Looker Squeak through that. Gregg Looker Little upgrade process and of course I upgraded everything you could. Hardwood floors and stainless steel, everything and everything was upgraded. David Duffield To this House here in Staples, and you've lived here since 2003. Gregg Looker 2003 cool. That thing I ever. Did I love this community? There's a bunch of pretentious Queens that live here. They have their own clicks. David Duffield The Gables in hub. Gregg Looker The gap between people. David Duffield OK, why don't you become known as Gable then? Gregg Looker �Well, the take on Stapleton and Gay and all these rich Queens are moving to Stapleton. They wanted to have a name and and they. Did a logo that. Is the Stapleton logo with the gap in it. David Duffield So tell us about the family of the White Rose scholarship time. Gregg Looker As you see I I documented the first six months extensively. I was sitting in a church and put 4 Kasha had died and. At that time, her niece and nephew were in grade school and to deal with somebody dying of AIDS. When you're in grade school or late grade school, it must have been really difficult, a single mother. Here and I. Go. We should be able to take care of these kids of our own, and it came to me that we should do a scholarship for them. And and that was in May. That soon was in May, the same day as Jackie analysis, and several. I was remember that. And I said, well, we can do a scholarship fund and I got the back bylaws about how they do it from San Fernando Valley with another court that had done a successful scholarships. And the first we adapted that we established the committee itself, we formed, the President would be the Vice President of the board and and that's still today and. David Duffield How much money has it raised overtime? Gregg Looker We are averaging $15,000 annually and since the time we've been a nonprofit, which is the year 2015 years times 15,000, and there was money before that, it was formed in 94. And it was named after Billy Cassandra, who had tried to do scholarships and spent all the money instead on her sales businesses. David Duffield Suffice it to say. That the scholarship comes around and helped how many kids? Gregg Looker Roughly 15 people and very being 1002 thousand 1500 each per year, and they're all Colorado residents. David Duffield 15 people. Gregg Looker The first event that was done was by at bricks on 17th Ave. for the White Rose Fund in July of 94. The Billy Cassandra efforts were in 1977, so there were 17 years between a scholarship effort. None. There was never any scholarship formally in 77, there was never any money that everybody got. Anybody got from 77. David Duffield Wow, you. Gregg Looker �But in 94, we named the scholarship White Rose. After Empress Three, who at least tried to raise scholarships 17 years prior, and so in the history of the Bill Rd. we skipped. That whole 90. Four period. As if it didn't even happen. Gregg Looker The white. David Duffield Rose was named because. Gregg Looker Billy Cassandra is the White Rose Empress. David Duffield Was why was that first, OK. So how did you incorporate it? Is it what were some of the? Biggest challenges in the WRSP? Gregg Looker It was easy. There were, there was money. We came rolling in. I mean for the. First couple of years I was. Actively involved in it. I had already been emperor, so that was and after I was emperor on 911991. And that's now the single most successful event that the court does in that 42% of all the money that comes in as charity fundraising is affiliated with White Girl Scholarship Fund. And there's a Cressy W Foundation with about $45,000 in it, which was based on giving the the annuity of the money annually and leave the money increasing. And that's a separate fund that's got 45,000 in it. David Duffield So overtime we've talked. About your work, we haven't really talked about your. Involvement with the court. What has been you were you were were involved with Acme from 1977 on. And you waited for him for six times. Gregg Looker And over the course of nine years. David Duffield I would of course. Have nine years and you finally won in the in in 1990. What has changed over the period of that time? What were your experiences like? Gregg Looker The latter part of it I'd no longer felt the organization was worthy of my involvement. To just incompetent people. Gregg Looker What's the? �Gregg Looker Just plain incompetent. David Duffield What was the early port? Gregg Looker It was well, I mean, I've been secretary on and off of the board and then the court on and off for the whole time, 77 to today I was secretary. I mean, I was the treasurer for the last seven years, on and off. Seeing our trans rights for the seven years immediately passed. Ending and when I walked away all together, I said I'm retired. I'm not dealing with you people anymore. And I handed over the financials in May of 2013 and then the court proceeded to have $30,000 invested. David Duffield What are your most positive? Memories of the court. Gregg Looker Well, the, the the amount of money we've given. Out roughly again annually between 15 and 20,000 in grants to various Colorado nonprofits. David Duffield How much is that? Gregg Looker And national nonprofits, the Community Center, and we did a $10,000 building fund that I told them to. Do and they did. And we gave, we paid that. Off within 18 months. And so I'm proud of how much we've been able to say, you know, give to to different charities and helping them. David Duffield Many charities in particular, besides like the center. Gregg Looker Well, I mean like the center, the cover AIDS project, the horizon. No, not horizon house anymore because they're not a nonprofit. David Duffield That's horizon house. Gregg Looker Ranch house on South Alameda, Alameda and Havana and West somewhere, and they have three people living there that have aids. Gregg Looker �Ohh OK cool. Gregg Looker But they're not a 501C3. They're just it's. Not even worth it to file to do a non profit for three people and so we don't give money there there anymore. But we have, I mean, the scholarships alone are are helping people out. David Duffield Right. Do you feel like they've had a tremendous impact on the people? Gregg Looker I don't never have follow up on the. Scholarships and I know that the center treats us the way they treat everybody. David Duffield OK. Gregg Looker Else I mean. David Duffield So what have been your least favorite? Experiences your most negative stuff at the core. And in the community. Gregg Looker Having recently done an audit. I I found out how bad it can get needing to do a profit and loss statement every passes it nobody ever read it when the money was being siphoned off for 28 months and nobody noticed. David Duffield And before that. Gregg Looker Before that, in 2007, I became CFO because they were using spreadsheets to do $100,000 year nonprofit and that just didn't cut it. So I. Migrated them to QuickBooks. Desktop and then online and online. And the just the sheer and confidence that the people in authority or marks that this incompetent. David Duffield Do you feel like they have the experience to do what they were doing? OK, so maybe it's also. Gregg Looker You know, if your hairdresser what and what kind of business talent do? You need. David Duffield �Well, you're not an accountant or a textbook. Gregg Looker Right, right, right. And way back, there were more a. Lot more hairdressers and bartenders than there were accounts. The court just tracks that kind of people. David Duffield Who are your favorite emperors and empresses? Gregg Looker Let's say name it. I'll do the top three of eight. The top three emperors. David Duffield And your. Gregg Looker Why is somebody taking a picture of my house? David Duffield You want to stop. Gregg Looker He's done. He's not stopping. He just took a picture of my house. Speaker You need to do. David Duffield The things with it, huh? Gregg Looker Yeah, yeah. So where we build? David Duffield Talking about your favorite president, maybe you've talked about the court enough. Gregg Looker Yeah, I don't want to beat that to death. I don't want to make it sound like if this ever comes out and I don't want. David Duffield Let's just talk. �Gregg Looker Everybody throwing rocks through my window. David Duffield Let's let's talk. About maybe your mobile environment C Black Mountaineers. Gregg Looker With what? Ohh. Gregg Looker I really enjoyed Rocky. David Duffield Mountain areas. Gregg Looker But by the time that I was. It didn't last much longer than 1991 it it had a name, but. It didn't really. The organization just. Literally died within a. Year after. My demise, I. David Duffield Because so many Members begin passing away. Gregg Looker Only half the people that went to GFR debt. Right. I was president of the board for and when we bought 45 acres of land and tried. To do a uh. We tried to do a park for a gay park, I mean near Fairplay. We bought it and I conducted the DFI there twice in the all we had was a running Creek and that was it. I mean you didn't have electricity or anything. So we generated all the electricity and that that was a a big time for being out of Honda Gold Wing. I went to California with it came back. And there were eight. People left when Jerry was dying. In the fall, Jerries last fall he we went to a motorcycle combined motorcycle run with the Albuquerque people and we met them halfway for. Toll pack. Now gauge railway. And that goes. Through southwest Montrose in their area down there and. I will my Honda. Another woman, two women who had learner's permits, one had a Harley and one had some other motorcycle with learner's permits. And the three of us rode our. Bike Jerry and another friend of mine drove my friend's van. So we all. Packed the camping stuff in the van and. I drove these three two people. And we got separated. And when we finally got to the condo we were staying at halfway. We stayed up till like 3:00 AM. And then the next morning, we're. Up it's 8:00 AM with the. Person with the learner's permit. Pulling into Montrose, that's something and she. She laid it down, skidded for a while because she didn't stop in time. And we had, we were meeting people, so we had to pack her up there in the van and take her to the hospital. See how she's doing. They kept her. And we, we kept going well. They blamed me for her accidents and they kicked me out of the club. Gregg Looker Long story short. �Gregg Looker Which I always thought, well, that was I didn't have anything to. Do with her following. Cracking up when she had a learner's permit. Why am I leading? Gregg Looker That people like that and so. Gregg Looker That ended my motorcycle career. That was 1990, and that vote was in 89. David Duffield 1991. Gregg Looker And Jerry voted with me against it, and they got the 75% votes they needed to launch me. But the club only lasted another two years. There are people in the Community that this Charlie Donaldson, who then the the, the, the cricketers that were set up for the some of the history stuff. Kind of weird guy. Gregg Looker You know really is. He still blamed. Gregg Looker Me for that accident. 26 years ago I tell people, you know, people have committed murder and gotten out after seven years. Why does this theme and some other people? Have the garage. She OK? She was fine. She didn't just come scratches and stuff. She didn't die. And you know, people have committed murder are out after seven years. And so they're carrying those beds for 26 years. I'm. I'm just, you know, comes up. I I did my time and I cannot do as I enjoyed it and I was president. You know what going to. Gregg Looker Do about that. David Duffield So out of that, what has been some of your proudest experiences in the community you served on the board of the? Directors for the center. Gregg Looker And I would. I received the Hosannas award. Gregg Looker Two years ago. Gregg Looker �Which is given to five people every two years and. It was for the work I had done way back in 1978, and I did the 1st. Communique for the international parts system that that listed the reigning monarchs, their drag name, their boy name, their phone number, their address. The date of their carnation theme of their carnation and I would publish that 4 * a year from all 65 courts, and I did that for 10 years. And later on, after I was not being nominated for the Jose Anna. But I kept moving and I'm going. Why am I? Why is that? I mean, just doing 10 years of that before e-mail before, you know, before any way else there could have been websites, even this is the most summative thing that ever happened to the international court system, and I deserve a whole lot of it. When I was trying to explain that to Jose in the late 90s. Yeah, he didn't want to hear it, and I and then it turns out when these names get submitted, it's Jose that makes the final selection. And Jose had it in for me, although he was always nice to me, to my face. He would never said you're never going to. He never told me that to my face. But he did say it to somebody else. Who would say that you'll never get out of that of the word. And the first year, the first awards that were given after Jose died. Gregg Looker Three of us of. Gregg Looker The five had been told we'd never get a word. David Duffield Wow. Wow. So that's pretty interesting. Gregg Looker Think of that. Yeah. Scott Siebert from Portland. They were actually. Told we were people that were rejected by Jose. You're every year I was nominated about 6 times. So Jose honors? Yeah. David Duffield So they, so they turn. For putting all this stuff together for over 10 years. Gregg Looker Well, you know when you. Gregg Looker Do a my like like I was building up I. See if all of them I imported the QuickBooks on system. I got people on on. You know, I did all sorts of good. Things locally. And that's that's the biggest achievement in the international court system was getting that award. Finally out of that Jose funeral, OM Gee, if you've got time, I'll. Show you the pictures of that. David Duffield How many people were there? Gregg Looker �Easily 1000 people. It was in a in a cathedral on the top of Nob Hill. There were 100 stretch limousines at this funeral. David Duffield Well, she founded this. Gregg Looker All the Queens came because you know she, she'd, she'd have. They'd have this rehearsals. Of her funeral for 10 years. Like an. David Duffield Egyptian, huh? Gregg Looker And they knew she's wasn't going to be around forever, but she wanted a state funeral. The pictures are just amazing of this event. I just was honored by it just being a part of it. I respect it. I was at and care about the event ward and I didn't matter to me. I he was a wonderful person, very witty, very. I read his book, fascinating life, Italian. Pavilion chart. David Duffield Yeah. OK, good. So let's talk a little bit about your experiences in Denver then. So we talked about our rocky Mountaineers ice here. I mean, you served on the board of the Center. Were there any other major groups that you were involved with? For the jabuti community. Gregg Looker Trying to think I was very active. I'm supposed to mention all these again. David Duffield No, no. Just anything that comes to mind. We haven't really talked. About so far. Gregg Looker Well, at first I had to make the decision to give up court positions to be a good rocky Mountaineer to be a member of Rocky Mountaineer. So I had to let like math on my court involvement and go higher on my motorcycle involvement. And then after I was in the motorcycle club then I would go back into more of the court involvement because. There's a lot of leadership. Needed in the court that doesn't exist. I can't think of anything more recent. I mean, it's alright. I'm tired. I'm old. I retired in 2006 from my city position when I was 55 and now I'm at 65. David Duffield Being retiring from here. Gregg Looker �And so I'm in with. I work for United Way for two. And a half years. And then I worked for Graland Country Day school for one for five years. David Duffield What's that? Gregg Looker The private grade school at 10th and 1st and Claremont in Cherry Creek. They have 690 students. Kindergarten costs 15,000 a year, and 8th grade is like 20. 8000 a year. Boy, we ate good. David Duffield Yeah, that she did. Gregg Looker That cafeteria is not there. That cafeteria is a lot different than normal school cafeterias. David Duffield So I think we're coming to the end of this. What did you? You've lived in Denver for almost 35 years, and it seems like have you ever struggled with anything over the course of your life that you want to talk about? Gregg Looker Denver has always been very good to me. I don't have any struggles. I mean, I'm happy. Everything's going good. I mean. I built out. My own basement. How many people can build their own basement? David Duffield Not many. Gregg Looker Dumping electrical everything. David Duffield But I mean more so you had mentioned you had gone to rehab. Have you struggled with addiction in your life? Gregg Looker I always. Gregg Looker Wonder if that it's. Addiction. Or is it just this is the way? I want to live. I don't. I've never been addicted to anything I take. I I purpose that when you couldn't get like it in anymore, you can get Percocet and I would take. Half a tab of Percocet in the morning. And that that would do me out. That would be fine all day. And I don't think that's addicting. �David Duffield It's modifying. Gregg Looker It's modifying right mediating. And I smoke pot all the time. It's not addictive. No. And it's legal and. David Duffield It's legal now. Gregg Looker I have an addictive personality. I know that. And it kind of comes and goes. Chris moving with a bunch of Alcoholics in this house. Isn't helping there. David Duffield Let me ask you a. Question has it. Has it been difficult to to regulate the addictive personality overtime? Gregg Looker No, because when one big back in the mid 90s, I realize we can't continue the party at night. We'll go to work the next day and be useless. So I don't mix work and drinking. Gregg Looker Yeah. Yeah, exactly. David Duffield Has it ever caused major? Problems in your life you think? Had I not. Gregg Looker Been working in the city where I was. I would have been fired a long time ago. Not being a productive person, I I admit it. The years after Jerry died were all muddy. I just couldn't understand it just didn't work well. But what's funny is that you know, for the people that see me socially and knowing I, I drink a lot, they don't know that, you know, I also was the assistant IT director of Denver Airport. You know that I literally did a lot of good things in my career, you know. They don't always see. David Duffield That the balance of it. Gregg Looker Right. David Duffield So what? Did how do? You feel about the the gay community in Denver. Gregg Looker �I think it's happening happening in San Francisco first, but it's happening in Denver also. That we don't. Need gay bars? David Duffield No one gave up. Gregg Looker We don't need gay bars. You know the the we're becoming so mainstream that. We don't need dedicated bars anymore. I've I've I've. Always enjoyed the gate community of Denver and Colorado. Nothing to to criticize Denver about the Gapin paper. A little Snooty. David Duffield Right. But classic couples can do that. What about? What's the biggest change you've seen you've? Looked for 35 years. How has been day changed since in Denver? Gregg Looker You know, when I first thought about scholarships in the late 70s, I go, oh, we're going to send. Somebody to beauty. School because that's the only kind of people that I thought were gay bartenders. Drug dealers drag Queens. And I I literally thought we'd never be so mainstream that we have doctors, lawyers, everybody across the spectrum of education and and work and and, you know, ethnicity and income and everything we've got the broad spectrum in Denver. Diversity. Very good, very diverse. David Duffield Perfect. Gregg Looker I have no reason to go. To the center, and then none of their programs. Have anything to do? With me and you know, I'm glad that's that's. I'm glad they're successful. At what they do, and I go to the cocktail parties on Friday, but I don't. There's nothing that I need there. David Duffield Has been the biggest change about being gay since you were a kid. Gregg Looker Has it gotten easier? David Duffield Or has it changed? Gregg Looker Well, you can get married now. That's that's easier. David Duffield �OK. They're they're discrimination or less. Gregg Looker I think it's not in Denver, but in the South, in the in the poor pockets of Kentucky and Tennessee and the, the the hatred that is now, they don't. They can't blame blacks for everything. So now they can blame the the gate community for everything wrong in the world. And there's. A lot of that. Out there, a lot of Republicans like that out there, even the presidential candidates are like that in this day and age. Get with the program live and let look, you know, you take clear, you don't need to be that guidance. Gregg Looker You know that that. David Duffield 984. Gregg Looker Uh, there's there's a lot of psychological. Stuff about you, yes. David Duffield Definitely. That's just 557 being gay. Besides, marriage is anything else. Gregg Looker Ted Cruz. Gregg Looker Well, considering I was gay, openly gay in the city in 1977. How rare is that? David Duffield That is rare to be openly business. Gregg Looker That was very. Rare nobody was out and gay in 1977. David Duffield So people sort of came out of the closet. Gregg Looker Right. Gregg Looker Especially in the city workforce and it no longer has anything to do with your career. I mean, there's I'd be the first to say that gay people are treated the same in the city as anybody else know. There's no. Reason to not. To hide it right now, there's this whole different world now. But then it was different. �David Duffield Then it was. Different. Then you didn't come out of. The closet if you work for the city. Gregg Looker Wish we worked for. The city, except for I'm the rare person that did I that new job that I got by the mayor's office allowed that job to happen. Knowing I did. The Dumb Mcnichols campaign. David Duffield Did you just get lucky? Gregg Looker I don't understand that. I don't know. Really know that what happened in. The mayor's office. But I know who who signed it and a real good person that I used to work for. And at the Stapleton was the one responsible for that position. Earl Stevens. David Duffield Who was it? Who is that? Gregg Looker He was. Gregg Looker He's the city administrator for a long, long time. He worked in the mayor's mayor's office during Mcnichols, and then he worked for land acquisition at Stapleton for the new airport. He was head of the acquisition of all the land in a wonderful person and. That's changed. I mean for the better. David Duffield Good. OK. So is there anything we haven't talked about that you can think of at the moment stories? Gregg Looker I and I'm told about the good ones already. This, this, this, this audit thing. Is going to be. David Duffield Interesting. We can talk a little bit more about that off reporting. Gregg Looker Yeah, yeah. David Duffield Well, I guess my final question is if there's any message that you want to pass on to gay kids or gay people in the? Future what would it be? Gregg Looker �I don't have any profound statements other than just be yourself. Don't feel you have to be something else than what you are. David Duffield Do you feel comfortable being who? You are. Gregg Looker Oh yeah, I've always been that way. How many people have had sex with? 300 people. David Duffield At least 300 people. Gregg Looker At least. David Duffield Do you pride yourself on the? Amount of people you had. Gregg Looker Sex with it's kind of A at this point being 65, it's kind of looking back on it, it's like. Really, I did a lot of stuff. David Duffield I did a lot of stuff on if you want to talk about it, but there were some times. Gregg Looker Ohh yeah, well, good times and good times. David Duffield What did gay men do for sex in the 70s in Denver? And 80s and. 90s it was bizarre. Gregg Looker It was bizarre. You could have. Sex in a public. Place and and like the triangle in the basement, there was a room in the basement with no light bulb. The ladies bathroom in the triangle didn't have. A light bulb and you could go. Gregg Looker There and get a *******, yeah. David Duffield Wow, really? What, what else did people do? Gregg Looker �Before AIDS and after AIDS, people that. Realized that you had to change your sexual practices with AIDS. You know, that came through in the 80s, but. I don't know what they do, I. Know what I? David Duffield Did what did. Gregg Looker You do. I don't think I want to. Go into that but. David Duffield OK. Gregg Looker Basically being the top instead of the bottom. So right with why I don't have aids, I'm pretty sure that. David Duffield Did your chain. Did your sexual habits change after HIV AIDS? No, no. Gregg Looker I got more creative later in the later days. David Duffield That is. In the community in general, safe sex had changed. Gregg Looker No, I don't think they're as safe as they need to be. I mean, there's a lot going on. They're not always being careful. But to being able to do. Grinder and stuff like that. We didn't have that. David Duffield You know what? Where would you go to meet you guys? You just go apart. Gregg Looker Right. Gregg Looker Right. Speaker OK. Gregg Looker I think we're done. �David Duffield All right. Thank you very much for your time. I appreciate it very much. Gregg Looker Let me show you something on my computer though. � Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Oral Histories Sound A resource primarily intended to be heard. Examples include a music playback file format, an audio compact disc, and recorded speech or sounds. 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Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/ Title A name given to the resource Danielle Badler Oral History Date Created Date of creation of the resource. 2019 Description An account of the resource Danielle Badler’s oral history traces her life from suburban New York through college, marriage, corporate communications, international relocation, and transition in Colorado. She discusses early childhood awareness of gender difference, secrecy, suicidal fear, searching for language before “transgender” was widely available, and building a successful public career while privately managing gender dysphoria. 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